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Freedom Think Tank #3- What do you give up for Freedom? by yanaland
July 12, 2010, 10:29 pm
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What do you give up for freedom?

What is the cost of freedom?

Living life as an artist: If you are totally free, how do you grow, build… happy to be free.

Individual free: no building a family, relationships… so much freedom, but where is the structure, undefinable, that supports you, is there a frame you are supposed to refer to in order to evolve, move forward? Idea that even when we are free, we need a frame, but then it’s not freedom any more since a frame is something that is imposed, exterior to us, something we have to cope with and that we can’t control.  Freedom as water. Metaphore of the pool. If you put a structure on it, where does the water go?

Not making a choice is choosing.

We agreed that we always have freedom within limits.

Can we orientate our freedom so that we are with other people.

Lead us to define freedom:

Freedom as a choice: when you make a choice, all things are open, you can go anywhere, nothing prevents you from choosing such and such directions. But  once the choice is made, feeling that freedom is gone, whereas actually we felt free to make the choice. You can regret what you’ve done, sometimes you try to go back. F

Freedom as being on our own, tied to nothing.

Freedom as being in harmony with ourselves and the people around.

Freedom as real feeling of independence: ex, driving, dancing alone. Movement is freedom, being physically engaged.

Freedom as release.

Freedom, time, memory: emotionally connected. You always have the memory of the choices you could have done. You take responsibility for it.

What do you give up:

Stability, financial security, family…

Time, privacy.

Compromise in freedom. Being married.

WE freedom/ I freedom.

We want to hope, we are optimistic. Is freedom a goal or a mean to fulfill ourselves? Do we want freedom for freedom?

American dream: being able to choose. Freedom of speech, freedom of expression: we can be what we want to be. But we have to compromise with society, family… Pressure of the parents…

Cost of freedom

Risk: to be wrong, to fail.  Take a bad decision,

How do you have prospective in freedom? Free alone in our daily life, and then you wake up, see the world around.

Do our sense of freedom change with the age? As a kid, you can go anywhere, do anything, people will take care of you. As you grow you loose that, win other things. Teens want to go away from everything.

Is freedom a linear pattern or coming back to where you were? Elderly… rely on people again, physically dependent, mentally free.

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